Interesting Dialogue between Mace and Rand

I have been privileged to be a witness to an interesting dialogue between two friends.

Mace has been an active participant on this blog and in my personal emails. Mace reported, as I understand it, that he invested as much as $860,000 USD into IBOM and has not received as much as a penny in return. He reports to have documents in hand that prove the King, IBOM and all of the team to be scammers who also got scammed by one Canadian, Roger Renaud.

Brand is a founder of the ICC and reports that he is working closely with the King and IBOM to bring their promises to fruition. Brand has always treated me with respect and, to my perception, honesty and integrity. I have found Brand to be very direct, blunt and at times a bit more "earthy" in his language than I would wish. If he is snowing me he is doing it in a way that has not cost me anything, so I wonder.

Here is a portion of a Q&A dialogue exchange they cc'd to me via email. It begins with Mace responding in blue text to Brand 's questions from a past email in black print; Then we have Brand 's responses in red text :

BRAND

I am answering your questions (below), copying our friend CAM and waiting for you to answer mine as promised.

Where did you get those documents?

The King and his allies were aware I got most of the documents from Roger himself. R R tried his charming scams and wanted to defraud us again. We were in exploring mission with him. Hasn't the King and his fraud allies told you about that issue? I went to EU head office to confirm the files. The files were fraud.

We investigated along with the EU, the German government, Interpol, the Canadian government and the US government and found the same thing. 

What have you lost of date using IBOM?

we lost at least 860,000.00 USD. We lost our credibility and reputation while introducing new clients to the fraud scam. we lost relationship with past friends.

Did you give this directly to the King, Ben Young or me? No you gave this to rr. Even though I am sorry you were hoodwinked by him I can not pay you back because the King, Ben Young nor I saw one sue of that money nor did we ask for you to give the King any money. If you are a card carrying member of the ICC you may recoup your losses by evoking 7070. If you do not know what that is ask Cam.

Do you have an account with IBOM?

Yes, if you consider an account with a non-existent bank a real account.

Do you consider yourself alive or the figment of God's imagination? I know that IBOM exist as I assume you know you do.

Have you read the Bougainville Constitutional International Banking Law as posted on

www.royalmc.org?

Yes. I thought it was well written for a non-existent nation that isn't even on the UN list of existing nations and the bulk of the populace does not recognize Musingku as the legitimate government.

The people of Bougainville Island, as well as 125 other indigenous people nations, believe they are an independent and that the King is one of the sovereign leaders if not the sovereign leader of Bougainville Island. That is what the [2015] referendum will determine. They do not understand how ignorant fu@#rs like you don't think so too.

Do you agree with the BVK White Paper?

No. The nation and the bank must exist before the white papers provisions can have effect in the economy.

Well for 30,000 years Bougainville Island has been inhabited by the Aboriginal people (first people) but one could say it did not belong to them because some governing body like the UN said they were too naive and child like to manage their own affairs. The big countries of the world wanted the riches that lie underneath the ground of Bougainville so they took away their right to choose. Are you someone who spent money (860k) to help the people of Bougainville or you another one of the greedy f^@#s who wants to herd all the naive child-like natives up and ship them from paradise to the desert of Australia. That is what Rio Tinto, PNG, and the Australian government tried to do.

The CBOB was Roger Renaud's brain fart not the King's. just to keep the record straight.

If you say so, then ibom was Musingku's brain fart, Ben Young's brain fart and also RANDY Henderson's brain fart.

Actually Ben Young ... can[not] take credit for IBOM. It was first the local bank of the King and became an International Virtual Bank dealing in only BVK later.

CBOB and any bank associated with rr is a fraud and a sham. Tell all your friends to stay away from it and use lots of soap and wash carefully if they have come in contact with CBOB or rr. 

Now it is your turn and our friend CAM can be the witness.

I hope Cam also witnessed how pathetically stupid you are and how big a greedy f^@# you are but don't loose heart we have a cure for stupid it is called 7070.

Being a greedy f^@# only god can help you with that.

God Bless

So, the dialogue had ended somewhat except Mace is convinced that Brand is also a scammer and a fraud, a liar to me and everyone else regarding IBOM. 

The process Brand referred to called "7070" is a process offered by ICC to members who feel they have been ripped off by another Member. The damaged member can apply to ICC for restitution of the loss. IF ICC AGREES they will give to the damaged member an in-club currency called "CHIPS",

“CHIPS” is an acronym for “Commercial High Increase Protection Savings Points”, similar, they say, to "airline saving miles". These CHIPS can be exchanged with another ICC member for either product the damaged member may want or currency of the member's choice, according to their mutual agreement. The trouble is finding another member who actually has anything worth trading for the CHIPS.

Mace might apply to ICC for $860,000 CHIPS and ICC might gift them to Mace. After that Mace has to find another ICC member with whom to trade. It might work out.

Not having the documents that Mace says he has that proves IBOM and King Peii II (Musingku) to be the frauds that PNG declare them to be, and not having the personal relationships with ICC founders and IBOM founders that Brand states he has, I am too ignorant of facts to make any declarations. 

All I can do is spout that each land should have independence according to the will of the people and they should have the right to have their own stable currency backed by the wealth of their land. I can also ask questions and invite participation. 

Also, having an IBOM account and ownership of a large amount of Bougainville Kina, I can declare that I hope they will be useable, legal tender with which to fund profitable businesses on island and off island.

So, there we have it.

I'll keep you posted.

Cameron Cv